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>> Hello.

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I'm Annette Insdorf,

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film professor

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at Columbia University,

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and for more than 25 years,

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moderator of "Reel Pieces"

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at Manhattan's 92nd Street Y.

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We are in the Kaufmann

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Concert Hall of 92Y,

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where we have been bringing

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the best of films

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and film artists to New Yorkers.

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It is my pleasure to share

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the highlights

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of "The Reel Pieces"

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interview series with NYC Life.

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Stephen Hawking has led

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an extraordinary life,

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overcoming debilitating

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physical infirmity

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to become a world-renowned

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astrophysicist.

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We know less about his wife,

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Jane Hawking.

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Both individuals are superbly

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incarnated in

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"The Theory of Everything,"

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which I previewed

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on November 5, 2014, before

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interviewing the splendid young

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British actors Eddie Redmayne

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and Felicity Jones.

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He won the Best Actor Oscar

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for capturing Hawking's

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complex trajectory

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from mere awkwardness

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as a Cambridge student in 1963

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to the search for new ways

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to move and express himself.

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Redmayne had already done superb

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work in films

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like "My Week with Marilyn"

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and "The Yellow Handkerchief."

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And he made quite an impression

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in "Les Mis" singing, too.

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Felicity Jones earned

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a Best Actress Academy Award

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nomination for her role

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as Hawking's wife, Jane.

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Previously, she starred

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in "Like Crazy"

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and Ralph Fiennes'

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"The Invisible Woman,"

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"The Amazing Spider-Man 2,"

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and my own favorite,

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"Hysteria" from 2011.

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Director James Marsh

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is best known for "Man on Wire."

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It won the Best Documentary

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Oscar

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for chronicling how

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Philippe Petit came to walk

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between the Twin Towers

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of the World Trade Center

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in 1974.

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With "The Theory of Everything,"

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Marsh went from the sky

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of "Man on Wire" to the cosmos.

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Enjoy.

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♪♪

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I have a lot of questions

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about how this all came together

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because it's a very rich,

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moving, and,

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as far as I understand,

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authentic film.

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I'll start with Eddie Redmayne.

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Eddie, we know that

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Stephen Hawking has this

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motor neuron disease and that

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he learned and you learned

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in terms of playing him

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that at some point,

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all muscular control shuts down.

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That is the most terrible thing

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for a human being,

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and perhaps just as bad

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in a certain conceptual sense

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for the actor

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who has to have an increasingly

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limited physical vocabulary.

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Could you tell us a little bit

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about the preparation

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that you had to engage

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in to play this man?

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>> When I got cast,

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I knew embarrassingly

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little about Stephen Hawking.

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And, uh, so I...

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the day after I got cast,

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I went to a motor neuron

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disease clinic,

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an ALS clinic in London,

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called the Queen Square

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Neurology Clinic.

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And I met with a specialist

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there called Dr. Katie Sidle.

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And she basically educated us

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on what this disease is.

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And she, with her

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clinical nurse,

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introduced herself

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in the next four months

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to many people suffering

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from this brutal disease

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and to their --

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to their families.

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And so it was about

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really investigating

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the physical reality,

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but also the --

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the emotional reality

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and the ramifications that --

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of -- of living with ALS.

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What's interesting about MND

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is -- motor neuron disease --

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is you have what are called

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upper neurons and lower neurons.

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And if the upper neurons go,

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there is a -- a rigidity.

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If the lower neurons go,

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there's a kind of -- a wilting.

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And ALS is a combination

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of those two things.

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But how it manifests itself

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in each sufferer

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is completely unique.

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So I, because there's

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no footage of Stephen that I

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could find before the '80s,

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it was about -- by which

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point he's in the wheelchair --

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it was about finding

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as much photographs

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as I could and taking it

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to the specialist,

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taking these photos.

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And she would decipher

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what muscles were

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stopping working when.

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Um, so things like there's

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a wedding

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photo of Jane and Stephen.

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And Stephen's

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holding Jane's hand.

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But his hand is on top,

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and you can see he's putting

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all his weight into her.

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And his hand is wilting.

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So you knew by that date,

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his hand had gone.

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So we tried to sort of create

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a tr--

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a physical, uh,

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projection of what

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his physical decline was.

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And -- and then, I said --

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I decided to work with a dancer,

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a woman called Alex Reynolds.

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And she helped me,

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over these four months,

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find ways of teaching yourself

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to shorten muscles.

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It felt like training for a

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sort of marathon or something.

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You know, really trying

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to teach your body to readjust

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because unfortunately,

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we knew from the outset

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that we weren't gonna

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be shooting chronologically.

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So within a day,

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you know, that sort of --

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>> Whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow down.

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You were not

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shooting chronologically?

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>> Unfortunately, no.

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Unfortunately, and -- and James,

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our director,

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did fight pretty hard for it.

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But, um, it --

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it -- nowadays it's economically

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unviable, um, unless you're --

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unless you're "Boyhood,"

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in which you can do it.

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So anyways, um,

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but, no, we were --

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>> So were there, forgive me,

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days where you, for example,

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would have to shoot a scene

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at one time of the day

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in one stage of

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Stephen Hawking's life,

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and then at another time

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a completely different

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in the same day even?

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>> I mean, I'll never forget --

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our first day

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was a trial by fire

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for both of us.

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We started off

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that scene

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where they're spinning.

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And then at lunchtime,

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it was when Stephen was

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on two walking sticks.

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And then in the afternoon,

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it was when they're in their 40s

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in the chair.

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So it was quite a -- it was --

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that was the first day.

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Sleepless night before that one,

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but --

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>> Okay.

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I was sort of impressed

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before knowing this.

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And now I'm kind of in awe

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because I just assumed

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that it had to have been shot

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chronologically in order

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to give you the opportunity

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to get your body used

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to that progression

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or degression.

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>> Unfortunately not.

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But what was amazing

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is James gave both of us,

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you know, this time,

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which is so rare in film.

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And for the last few weeks,

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it was about

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the two of us working together

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because there's a sense of --

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of when this person is suffering

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and they lose their facilities,

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it's like -- it's --

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it's -- Jane becomes, like,

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an extension of his --

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his body almost.

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It was like a dance.

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>> And in a way

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when it's not shot

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chronologically, you know

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you're gonna be just jumping off

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a high diving board,

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um, into deep waters.

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So it makes you

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really put as much time

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into the preparation.

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And so we were so lucky on this

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that we had a -- we had time.

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We had months on our own

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to get to know these characters

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and understand them.

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But what was amazing

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in the same way you do

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with a play is having weeks

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to run the scenes and --

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and to try things out and --

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and make mistakes, uh,

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in a rehearsal room in London

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with no one watching

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before we got to set,

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knowing that

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you're gonna have to be,

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you know, jumping between

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so many different years

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and periods and emotions

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and, um, and situations.

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So it really meant that we were,

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like, for this one,

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gotta do our homework.

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>> Yeah.

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>> That's the priority.

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>> Wow.

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And I knew

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that the screenwriter,

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Anthony McCarten,

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did meet with Jane Hawking.

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I want to ask you,

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Felicity Jones,

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did you meet with her?

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And if so, what that gave you.

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Yes,

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I did meet with her.

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I mean,

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when I first read the script,

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I, um, I actually -- when

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my agent told me about the film,

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I was a little bit, you know,

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I was a bit cautious in

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some ways because usually in --

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in films about, um, in biopics,

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the -- the female character

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can be, um,

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pretty two-dimensional.

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There's often not a lot there.

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She's just kind of propping up

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the lead male.

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So, um,

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but when I read the script

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and saw that this was about two

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incredibly strong people

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and exploring both their --

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their flaws and nuances and --

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and it was particularly

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playing a woman who's neither,

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you know, she's not a saint.

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She's not perfect.

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She is -- she is flawed.

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Um, and that --

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that immediately --

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that was my responsibility.

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And so -- so when I met Jane,

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I was -- you're --

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you're cautious.

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You're -- you're nervous.

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We were meeting Stephen

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as well because you --

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you are taking

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these people's lives

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and you're putting them

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out there in quite --

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in a big way. So you sort of --

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you don't jump in and just start

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asking them

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really personal questions.

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It was about building

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a trust and a --

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and a relationship

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between each other.

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Um, and that just started

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with a cup of tea basically.

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Um, like, good, you know,

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good English tradition.

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So I -- I went round and --

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and spoke with her and --

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and just talked

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about their experiences,

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her experiences with Stephen

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and with Jonathan and --

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and felt that was

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really important,

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this love that this --

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this woman had for two men

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in very different ways.

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But also, you know,

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I'd be talking to her

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and watching how she moves,

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how she -- how she picked up

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a cup of tea.

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And she has really...

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Her hands, the way she --

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I just was -- became obsessed

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with hands basically.

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Um, just everything

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is so carefully done

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and -- and the way she talks.

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So I -- I was talking to her,

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but at the same time trying

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to observe as much about her,

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her physicality as possible.

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>> Sure.

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And did you meet

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Stephen Hawking?

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>> Yes.

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>> And?

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>> [ Laughs ]

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I did meet Stephen.

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And similarly, it was

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just before we started filming.

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And it was complicated

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because --

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'cause we had spent these months

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preparing and really

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immersing ourselves in --

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in everything

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that we could get our hands on.

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And because we knew that

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we were about to start shooting,

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I'd had to sort of --

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to create a sense of the arc

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and -- and the technical side

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of the performance.

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And there was this great fear,

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what if I meet him

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and I realize it was all wrong?

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Um, and so he's an incredibly

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busy man, Stephen Hawking.

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He's solving some quite hardcore

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problems

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out there in the universe.

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Um, and so, and he --

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so I could only meet him

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about five days

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before we started filming.

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And by this point,

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he was genuinely -- I mean,

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had sort of had moved from icon

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to sort of idol-like status

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in my mind.

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And I arrived.

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And it's now even more difficult

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for him to communicate than it

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is in the film.

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He uses these muscles

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around his eyes.

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And there's a sensor

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on his glasses.

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And there is a screen

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with the alphabet and a cursor

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going across the alphabet.

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So when he moves

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one of these muscles,

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it stops on one letter.

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So it really does take a long,

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long time to --

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to -- to talk to him now.

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And there's

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a sort of very odd rhythm.

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And I hate silence.

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And I was really nervous.

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And so basically

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I just had this sort of

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excruciatingly

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embarrassing 40 minutes

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in which I just

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basically just told

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Stephen Hawking

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about Stephen Hawking.

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[ Laughter ]

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I mean,

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genuinely, I sweated.

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The whole thing was a nightmare.

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I eventually calmed down,

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and he was just looking

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at me going, sort of, really?

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Just tell me about myself?

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Uh, and, uh,

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and then I calmed down.

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And he was wonderful.

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He was witty.

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And he was --

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has this extraordinary humor.

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But also this -- I suppose

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the greatest thing I took away

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from that meeting was this --

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this sense of mischief.

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There's a kind of...

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I describe it as, like,

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a Lord of Misrule quality

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to him.

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And it was wonderful

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to bring that --

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to have that at the end,

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to bring it --

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to bring into the --

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>> Some -- somebody, um,

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asked Stephen

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"What's the greatest

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mystery in the world?"

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And there was a pause.

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And Stephen just wrote, "Women."

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[ Laughter ]

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He has an incredible

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turn -- yeah, turn of phrase.

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He's really, really --

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well, yes, and he's so

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incredibly witty.

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>> I occasionally appreciate

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the reviews that other people

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have written of films.

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And one that I came across

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by Justin Chang from Variety,

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he actually said something

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that I --

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I wanna share with all of you.

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He wrote, "It's worth noting

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that 'The Theory of

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Everything' derives its title

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from Hawking's tireless search

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for a single universal equation

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that will account

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for all existence,

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reconciling quantum mechanics

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and Einstein's

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general relativity.

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Dramatically speaking,

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the filmmakers seem to have

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incorporated that principle

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by extending a generous spirit

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of inclusion toward

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nearly everyone on screen."

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And I was even more aware

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of it tonight than watching

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the film a few weeks ago.

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There were no villains

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in this film.

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There are no sort of pat

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conventional bad guys,

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no nasty doctors or anything.

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In fact, one keeps sensing

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that the only evil

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is somehow a disease.

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You know, that -- and --

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and it doesn't have a face.

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And I -- I think that all of you

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are to be credited

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with the humanity that emerges

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at every moment

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from this particular story

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and the way it's told.

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>> Thank you.

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>> That was so important.

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>> Um, one other thing.

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Because we mentioned

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Daniel Day-Lewis,

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"My Left Foot," you know,

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now that you've told me

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you didn't shoot in sequence,

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I'm even more aware that

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no matter how challenging that

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performance as Christy Brown

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would have been for him,

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at least he has one basic

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physical reality

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from the beginning

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of the film till the end.

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And you have, I mean,

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you go from one cane

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to two canes to a wheelchair

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to the motorized

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wheelchair to the box.

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And I'm wondering, what for you

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was the most challenging part?

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Was it, in fact, towards the end

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when the reduction

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of a physical vocabulary down

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to just, you know, the gaze,

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is that harder, or were --

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were there earlier parts

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that you were even

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more intimidated by?

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>> That's a very good question.

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I... The interesting thing

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for me...

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The answer to that is the most

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difficult part

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was the jumping around,

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was just making sure that you

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didn't miss a trick each time,

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each physicality you were in.

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And that that was truly

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embedded and inhabited.

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And the way I approached that,

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I referenced, um, Alex Reynolds,

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who is this dancer I worked

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with, was that if you --

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if you learn the steps

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to a dance, you know,

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it takes a while to get them.

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But once you know them,

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you can really play that

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and express within the confines

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of what those steps are.

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And similarly, I wanted to make

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sure I'd done all that work

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because this is not

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a story about a disease.

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It's a love story.

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It's a complicated and kind of,

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I found, deeply intriguing

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examination of love.

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Um, and I wanted to make sure

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that by the time

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we started playing, that

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Felicity and I could just play

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the human aspect, the emotional

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aspect of the story.

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So I did try and learn

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the physicalities in that way,

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in a way

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in which I was completely freed.

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Um, what's interesting

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about the later part of the film

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where you can move less is

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that it's not a relaxed place.

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It's one in which your face

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is in -- even if it's still --

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it's in quite extreme, um,

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sort of contortions,

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it was weird.

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But when you meet Stephen,

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even though he can use

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very few muscles,

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it's amazing

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how much expression there is.

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He has one of

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the most charismatic faces.

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Because all of those --

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those few muscles

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that you can still use,

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it's, like, every --

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every form of gesture,

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of intonation of voice,

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of every facility,

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all of that energy is channeled

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through you

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into those muscles which you can

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still express with.

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And, um, so, weirdly,

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that was perhaps the most, um,

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physically tiring period

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were those later ones.

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>> Yeah.

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And what you just said, um,

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I'd -- I'd like to maybe ask

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Felicity Jones to expand on that

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because I also feel

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that even though

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I thought this was going to be

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a film about Stephen Hawking,

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this brilliant astrophysicist,

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what I take away

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is the love story part.

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I mean, the -- the tenacity,

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the gentle tenacity

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of the Jane character

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that you present so beautifully.

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Um, I mean,

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what kind of effect on you

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as a person does playing

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that kind of love have?

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>> Um, well, it -- it was --

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with this particular film,

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you know, it is something

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that it does --

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it's not one of those films

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you make where you, you know,

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you finish at the end of the day

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and you just go home

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and don't think about it

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and have a drink in the pub.

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Um, you -- you --

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it lives with you.

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It -- it -- you --

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it becomes part of you.

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Um, and it did actually take us

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both some months

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after finishing filming

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before we --

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we sort of found out

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who we were again.

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You know, you have the residue

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of the characters lives in --

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lives inside you.

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And, um, um,

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and becomes part of you.

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And -- and it --

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that's what we both felt

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so strongly about Jane,

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is didn't -- I that --

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for that reason that you said,

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because they're

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not baddies or goodies.

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They're -- they're complicated

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and nuanced and they --

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and they have, um, you know,

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they both have incredible egos.

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And they're both very,

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very strong-willed people.

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Um, but we -- we both felt

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incredibly protective over them.

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I think we --

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we had often, you know,

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we'd often have arguments

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on set and be --

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and be like, "No, Jane, this --

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Jane would be doing this.

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Stephen --"

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And there would be conflict

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between -- between us.

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Um, and --

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and that came from this, um,

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this -- this true,

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um, admiration for --

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for who they were.

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So it ha -- it has had --

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it's had a huge effect on us,

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without a doubt.

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And we've --

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or now that they're --

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we've spoken

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to them both afterwards

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and that they feel

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pleased with the emotio--

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'cause you don't get every

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single detail of the story.

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But the emotional truth

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of it has --

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has resonated with them.

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And they're coming

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to the premiere in London,

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which I feel is gonna be --

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>> Wow.

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>> A very emotional experience

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for all of us.

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>> Yeah. Um, London.

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How important,

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especially for you,

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was it to shoot in some

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of the actual locations?

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I know that you went to

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St John's College, Cambridge,

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or the Cavendish Laboratory,

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where indeed, um,

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the atom was first split.

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Was that an --

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an integral aspect

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of playing the character?

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>> Well, I feel like, um,

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certainly Cambridge is a --

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is another character

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within the film.

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>> Mm.

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>> They still --

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Jane and, um,

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and Jonathan and Stephen

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still live very close

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to each other in Cambridge.

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It has this --

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this extraordinary heritage

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and sort of profound beauty.

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And so I do feel

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like that did inspire us.

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Um, every day, you would --

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you would walk to work

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and just -- just be sort of

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in awe of this, this sort of

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idyll that is there,

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but also that extraordinary

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brutal things can be happening

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within those contexts.

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It was a sense of history

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that I think informed it.

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>> Absolutely.

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And also our first week

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of filming was, um, in the place

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where

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Jane and Stephen were living.

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And so we'd be walking past

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their house, you know,

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their first house they had when

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they've had their first child.

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And so we were -- it was --

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it -- just for your head space,

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it's --

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it's good to start in the place

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that is so important to the --

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the fabric of -- of the film.

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>> And James --

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James, actually, our director,

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was shown to the bed where --

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where Stephen did have

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that epiphany

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while stuck in his, um,

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in his, uh, jumper.

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>> Jane -- Jane gave him

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a guided tour of Cambridge.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Um, but mentioning that,

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I, the second time

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watching it tonight,

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I was even more aware of how

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visually rich the film is.

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In other words, it's anchored

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in your performances.

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But whether it's the way

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that the cream swirls in the cup

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of black coffee

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or the circular, low-angle shot

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of the looping staircase

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with you, uh,

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or that wonderful close-up

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of the eye behind the sweater

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seeing in the fireplace

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the very incarnation, you know,

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of the theory that is --

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is being worked out.

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Um, so first of all,

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working with James Marsh.

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You've both worked with a number

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of extraordinary directors.

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Later on, I'll perhaps ask

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specifically about them.

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But he was better known --

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he is better known

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as a director of documentaries,

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like "Man on Wire"

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or "Project Nim,"

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than fiction films.

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First of all,

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what made you trust him?

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And second of all,

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could you tell us a little bit

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about

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the way he worked with you,

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especially if it was

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a bit different

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from some of the others

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with whom you've worked?

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Well, um,

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so, well, trust is a --

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I think often

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it's an instinctive thing.

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Um, and I, after reading

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the script, met with James.

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And, um, it was actually

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that conversation, you know,

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when you just feel like you're

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being on the same wavelength

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with someone.

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Um, and -- and actually

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what was important was I --

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I -- I'd watch "Shadow Dancer,"

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which James made

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with Andrea Riseborough.

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And, um, and I thought,

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this director is very good

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at telling a female story and --

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and does it very sensitively.

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So that --

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that was a major thing in --

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in thinking, this is --

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would be great to work

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with this person.

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And then obviously

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"Man on Wire,"

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where again, he dealt with at --

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at points, tricky characters.

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Um, but he does so in a way

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that's entertaining without --

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without judging them.

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Um,

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and then he did this amazing --

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there's this trilogy in --

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called "Red Riding"...

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I don't know if anyone saw,

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and that was in England.

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And his episode

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was just absolutely fantastic.

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And there's something --

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and I love

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James's aesthetic as well.

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I feel in the opening

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of the film,

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everything is so pared down,

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like,

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in the background of the scenes.

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It's all very,

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very simple.

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And -- and there's,

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um, there's --

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there's -- there's a focus

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to his direction that I love.

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There's a sort of, um,

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there's always

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an incredible truth he gets,

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which obviously comes

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from the documentary.

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His documentary --

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>> Yeah.

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I mean, some of our greatest

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filmmakers

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started out in nonfiction,

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like Kieslowski.

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>> Yeah. Yeah.

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>>

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We were talking about backstage.

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And then they bring to fiction

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films a not only curious eye,

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but one that is prepared

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for the surprises that life

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is always throwing at us.

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>> Yeah.

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>> And, um,

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I can feel that very strongly.

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And that's --

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that's what he gave us.

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I mean, the most

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extraordinary thing about James

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is he emboldens you.

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And I know that it --

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that can be rare in film

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in which the circumstances

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are so fraught.

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But our instinct

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on this film was that anything

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that was happening physically

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would have ramifications

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on what the costuming was,

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which would have ramifications

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on what the makeup was and --

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or what angle we were being shot

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from versus things like

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proportion of the wheelchairs.

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And he really did

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this amazing thing of allowing

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every department

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to have their voice.

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It was like he...

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And that these occasional times

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when we would have a crazy idea,

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and we'd be, like, can --

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can -- can we do --

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>> Often have crazy ideas.

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>> Completely off-beat.

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And he would go, "Do it."

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And quite often, with directors

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you do that, and then it fails.

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And then you feel guilty

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and embarrassed

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that you've wasted time.

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And he would go, "No, try again.

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Try something --"

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And he was really --

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he really did make us feel

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completely free to play.

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>> Yeah, it was --

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because that doesn't, you know,

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sometimes you work with people,

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and they're --

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they're sort of two takes.

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That's all you're having,

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you know? Get it done.

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You gotta come in,

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and you've gotta know

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exactly what you're doing.

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And do it right there.

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And with this, it was --

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it went -- We still had to know

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what we were doing, hopefully.

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But, um, um, but it was more --

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it was -- it was friendly.

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It was

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encouraging rather

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than judgmental in any way.

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And, um, lots of --

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Eddie and I both like

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doing lots of takes,

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and so having a director

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who doesn't get really

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annoyed with you for that

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is always a great help.

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>> It strikes me that,

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you know, both,

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despite the obvious differences,

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both "Man on Wire"

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and "The Theory of Everything"

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are about men who defy

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conventional human boundaries.

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So obviously he is drawn

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to the spirit

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that transcends whatever.

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On the other hand,

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it's also true

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that if you've seen

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"Man on Wire,"

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what a meticulous attention

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to detail

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in order to tell that story

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and in order even to do

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what Philippe Petit did.

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So, you know, you have

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to somehow blend what I'm sure

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Stephen Hawkings himself,

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Hawking, blends, you know,

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a sense of everything beyond,

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but that ability

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to just concretely get it

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into some articulable

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and, um, externalizable form.

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>> He would allow us

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this extraordinary freedom

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at the end of the day

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sometimes, though.

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You're absolutely right.

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There was a meticulousness

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to the way that he worked.

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But at the end of the day,

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he would have us improvise

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in character with --

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with the kids in order to get

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this sort of home footage,

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which was his way of...

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I think originally

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in the script,

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it was five years later

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and 10 years.

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And he wanted --

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he wanted to blend time more

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to get this sense of the, uh,

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elasticity almost of time.

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And, um, and for us,

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that was a wonderful thing

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just to be able to present --

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and also because

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of all the detail we had found

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in research about things

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like the hands, for example.

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And James, you could see him

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gently throughout the shoot

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becoming infatuated

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with what our hands were doing.

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>> Our hands and feet.

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>> And he would --

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he said there's an entire film

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to be made, a short film,

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probably not

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a particularly interesting one,

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about our hands and feet.

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But, um --

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>> But we --

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we found that when, um,

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'cause we would watch rushes

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in the evening,

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and, um, and which is,

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again, amazing.

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Um, takes enormous confidence

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to let your actors

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see the rushes

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as you're going along.

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Um, and, um, we would notice

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how much detail Benoit, the DOP,

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was picking up of, you know,

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of -- as Eddie said, you know,

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of -- of feet and hands

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and how, um, it's all rooted

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in that detail.

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Which when you're watching that,

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you suddenly think, oh, God,

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I better know what I'm doing.

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And -- and --

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but a really, you know,

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every little movement

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is gonna be captured.

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And you want it

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to get that just -- just --

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just right 'cause he was

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observing so closely.

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>> Right.

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Now, time.

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Time is what Stephen Hawking

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studies.

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Time is what he learns

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at the beginning of the film

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that he has so little of.

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But I think about what

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the film does with time.

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You know, at the end,

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you get this montage

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so that everything rewinds back

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to the beginning.

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I mean, basically, time

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folds back in on itself.

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And I was wondering,

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was that in the original script?

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Or is that something

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that in the editing process --

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>> That was there.

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That was there

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in the original script.

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I think there were

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different beats that were going

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to be in the rewind, um, at --

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at --

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But, yes, that was --

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that was in Anthony McCarten's

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original screenplay.

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>> And he always says

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that that was the first instinct

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he had when he --

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when he wrote the script,

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was that that --

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that this had to rewind, this --

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there --

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there had to be a sense of it --

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where it started and --

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and -- and playing, as you say,

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with it being

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plastic and nebulous, time.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Well, and interestingly,

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one of the very early

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screenplays had even the,

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um, it started with the --

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do you remember the Universal,

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you know, the symbol,

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the Universal film company

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with the Earth spinning?

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>> Right.

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>> And it came out of the Earth

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spinning into the --

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into the wheel spinning.

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But I think that --

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I think the idea

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of that circular motif is --

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is --

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it brings you back to what --

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to -- to the Earth, doesn't it?

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It's constantly --

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>> Absolutely.

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>> Coming around.

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♪♪

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>> Eddie Redmayne continued

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to incarnate physical

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transformation on screen,

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receiving

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another Oscar nomination

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for "The Danish Girl"

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one year later.

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